Monday, August 11, 2008


I've been notified (as have several other of my nefarious blogging kin) that my site needs a disclaimer -- who knew?

I mean, like, is somebody trying to imply, you know, that there's something darkly disturbing about my blog, you know what I'm sayin'?

The blogger know as A Former Leader has posted a funny-yet-all-too-real post about the dangers of thinking outside the institutional box -- or at least, reading blogs that encourage thinking outside the institutional box. A Former Leader has suggested that I (and others) include the following disclaimer on my blog:
"Beware all who land on this site. This site may enable you to see truth for the first time. Seeing truth may be just what you are looking for but you need to be careful. Once you have tasted truth you will never be able to stomach lies. You are on dangerous ground if you ever want to fit into the established system. You may lose all your friends. You may not have anyone left to worship with. Your children may be left only to you to raise. God will not be controlled any longer. He will be good but no longer safe in that you will not be able to predict his every move. And as for many of your friends. You will need to be willing to loose them. They may (probably will) shun you, dismiss you and turn away from you despite what you now may think. You need to think long and hard about this because it will affect your life. Please be careful with this site. Only enter at your own risk. (Read the whole post)
All humour aside, I really resonate with the longing that Former Leader mentions about true community, honest worship, and in general, finding a place where you "fit". And honestly, I think less and less these days about "fit" meaning "a place" and more being about finding other "people of the Spark" in whatever setting I may be in.


  1. Your 'disclaimer of sorts' is WHAT drew me in! After I was done rolling on the ground with mirth, I included your link on our blog, DeTox Church Group. So far your voice is the clearest and most concise I've come across when it comes to detoxing from the old world.

    I'm finding that the people who NEED to detox but don't know it yet don't have patience for long articles, but they can manage smaller well thought-out portions.

    So way to go. Also, congrats on the 5 year mark!

    From someone who has just begun on the blogging trail.

  2. Greetings again from the Left a frequent reader yet less frequent responder, this particular piece left me somewhat a pocketful of thumbtacks.

    I get the whole cost of discipleship motif...I love Bonhoeffer...and the 'leave all you have and follow me' command is certainly one of the most challanging, subversive, and countercultural things Jesus ever asked. Being asked by Jesus, as Bonhoeffer suggests, to 'come and die' does seem somewhat eternally comprehensive in scope. Counting the cost has never been my strong suit.

    But I look around on a Sunday morning - or evening - and see people who are living fulfilled lives with healthy relationshps, who have found meaning in their work, and who are 'established' although may not be part of the 'establishment'. The article suggests that to have any of these things (and a whole host of others)is to compromise your faith for the sake of earthy happiness. Can't they coexist more than this entry suggests?

    What about God giving good things?

    Yes, He takes away, but he also gives.

    Don't blessing and sacrifice exist in tenison?

    "Fitting into the established system" isn't inherently bad. Perhpas the greater test of faith is faithfully living your life while being part of the system.

  3. Barb,

    Sort of like, why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill? :)


    But you can't go back, can you? I mean, even if it were possibly...

    And yet, I remember Bob Girard's comment to me a number of years ago, how many of the people who walked the destructured journey with him ended up back in "normal" churches in many cases -- only THEY were much different as a result of their journey.

    Maybe that's the next step on the road -- finding "people of the spark" in whatever setting you find yourself?


    I'm glad you enjoyed the graphic! It seemed a concise way of articulating what happened and what continues to happen for many people.

    And it IS a journey, and there's no escape from the reality: It takes time. I pray your group has grace for each other as you each wrestle through things.

    West Coast Daryl,

    We are more on the same page that may be immediately obvious. I often make reference to finding "people of the spark" (you would definitely been one of them during our short time together as youth leaders), who are full of life and the Spirit and want to make a difference, regardless of the spiritual climate around them. That sense of meeting like-minded, mission-oriented people in whatever context is still something that I hope people take seriously.

    It won't be found in a perfect church system, nor in a perfect house church, or even in perfect drinking buddies at the local pub. It will only be found in individuals who place Jesus and His mission high on their priority. And when these people find each other -- inside or outside of "church as we've known it", then deeper fellowship becomes possible.

    The "detox" is from an unhealthy devotion to and reliance on an institution or program -- you don't have to leave either in order to detox, but for many people, it helps. A lot. And in some cases, people don't have the option to choose; the choice is made for them by being removed for daring to question a few sacred cows. Those who stay in "the system" and those who feel they need to leave (or are forced to leave) all need to have grace for each other's journey.

    Are we connecting? (hope so...)

  4. Thanks Rob...I think we are on the same page. I sometimes wonder where my rebellion and pride starts and a sincere desire to detox begins. Its a fine line.

    We should do coffee soon....but maybe after mosquito season. I'm a bit of a whimp.

    Glad to be back in dialogue with an old friend.

  5. I'm sure after the lobotomy I'll be happy anywhere. ;)